tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505749622183039650.post402249018594640495..comments2023-10-02T03:19:31.569+11:00Comments on Dead Flies and Perfume: Thoughts on gender and authority in the churchMike Whttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13382354162198484322noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505749622183039650.post-30345806866182098342010-08-10T11:55:42.037+10:002010-08-10T11:55:42.037+10:00Check this out, from Doug's new book:
"T...Check this out, from Doug's new book:<br /><br />"Traditionalists are fighting a rear-guard action, trying to keep women out of a post that they clearly more qualified for than men are. Feelings can run high in the debate, but the debate is essentially over whether men only or women and men both should occupy the post of an essentially feminized office. If anyone has the temerity to suggest that we return to the older view of a genuinely masculine office, then both sides in the contemporary debate will stare at him aghast. And it will remain this way so long as girly-men complementarians persist in trying to keep girly women from getting their share of the effeminate action. Because of how we have been backed into a corner, the egalitarians have a real point if they were to say that exclusion of women from ministerial office is arbitrary. When we think of how the modern ministerial call is defined, it is arbitrary, but if we recognize that the Word of God not only excludes women from becoming women ministers, but also excludes men from becoming women ministers as well, we will be on the road to recovery" (Why Ministers Must Be Men, p. 43).Mike Bullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00160881512505096044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505749622183039650.post-35998826849065075442010-08-07T22:33:04.059+10:002010-08-07T22:33:04.059+10:00Hi mike,
sure, some readings are simpler than othe...Hi mike,<br />sure, some readings are simpler than others. Still, what we call preaching, gathering,teaching, prophecy, leading and even church are likely to be different to their meaning in 1st C palestine.<br />That doesn't lead automatically to any position on womens ministry. But once you figure out what the texts are saying, you then have to figure out how that applies to our current practices as a wholeMike Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382354162198484322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505749622183039650.post-86254282722350053282010-08-06T22:50:50.178+10:002010-08-06T22:50:50.178+10:00There is no simple reading, but one is far simpler...There is no simple reading, but one is far simpler than the other. So simple in fact that church maintained the same practice for 1800 years.<br /><br />Our bodies are still symbols. They point to the spiritual realities more than ever, not less.Mike Bullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00160881512505096044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505749622183039650.post-78121038276475397692010-08-06T09:07:19.139+10:002010-08-06T09:07:19.139+10:00thanks alison, you should start submitting some of...thanks alison, you should start submitting some of you posts to eternity magazine, like your latest one on the stolen generation. You are a very readable writer.Mike Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382354162198484322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505749622183039650.post-60519324470676221582010-08-06T09:00:17.421+10:002010-08-06T09:00:17.421+10:00This is very good thought provoking. I like this p...This is very good thought provoking. I like this post.alisonhttp://spally.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.com